How to Talk to Terrorists
By Jonathan Powell on 7/10/14, The Guardian
By Jonathan Powell on 7/10/14, The Guardian
Extracts:
“(…) As is
so often the case, the terrorists had a better memory for what had gone before
than the government. (I use the word “terrorist” here for the sake of
simplicity, but it isn’t a particularly useful term to define a group – terror
is a tactic employed by governments, groups, and individuals. I mean it to
refer to non-state armed groups that use terror and enjoy significant political
support.)
When it comes to terrorism, governments seem to
suffer from a collective amnesia. All of our historical
experience tells us that there can be no purely military solution to a political
problem, and yet every time we confront a new terrorist group, we begin by
insisting we will never talk to them. As Dick Cheney put it, “we don’t
negotiate with evil; we defeat it”. In fact, history suggests we don’t usually
defeat them and we nearly always end up talking to them. Hugh Gaitskell, the
former Labour leader, captured it best when he said: “All terrorists, at the
invitation of the government, end up with drinks in the Dorchester.”
Certainly
that was true throughout the history of the British empire. Menachem Begin’s Irgun was
responsible for blowing up the King David Hotel in Jerusalem in 1946, killing 91 and injuring
46. The British authorities called him a terrorist and tried to hunt him down.
But when he became prime minister of Israel and made peace with Egypt, we lauded him as a statesman. We
accused Jomo Kenyatta of being a terrorist and locked him up, but later
negotiated Kenyan independence with him. We exiled Archbishop Makarios to the Seychelles for supporting terrorism but made
peace with him and he became the first leader of an independent Cyprus.
It is
hard not to respond emotionally to a terrorist act in the heat of the moment. When we see videos of western
journalists being beheaded or TV footage of small children being blown up by
IRA bombs it seems obvious that the only answer is force. It is easy to
regard any suggestion that we should ever talk to people capable of such
savagery as immoral. George W Bush, in a speech to the Knesset in 2008,
even suggested that talking to terrorists in this way amounted to appeasement.
That is, however, to misunderstand appeasement. Chamberlain’s mistake in 1938
was not talking to Hitler – it was entirely sensible to take every possible
step to avert another catastrophic world war – but to think Hitler could be
bought off with a slice of Czechoslovakia. Talking to terrorists and agreeing with them are not the same thing.
The British government negotiated with Sinn Féin, but we did not concede to
their demand of a united Ireland at the barrel of a gun.
I have not
always been convinced of the need to talk to terrorists. The first time I met a
terrorist, I did so reluctantly. My father had been hit by an IRA bullet in an
ambush in 1940, and my eldest brother was on an IRA death list for eight years
while he worked for Margaret Thatcher. When I first met Gerry Adams and
Martin McGuinness, in Belfast in October 1997, I declined to
shake their hands – a petty gesture I now regret, but one that recurs again and
again at encounters between governments and terrorists. (…) Terrorists are nearly always
keen to talk. (…)
I am an
unlikely peacenik. I grew up in a military family, and I was involved in the
decisions on all of Tony Blair’s wars. I do not think that war is always
wrong: sometimes it is necessary to stop a dictator, prevent massive
human-rights abuses, or expel an invader. (…)
We
usually delay talking to armed groups too long, and as a result, a large number
of people die unnecessarily. General David Petraeus admitted that, in Iraq, the US left it far too late to talk to
those “with American blood on their hands”. We delay because it is argued that
talking is too risky – but experience suggests the real risk lies in not talking. (…)
It has been
argued, by some revisionist historians, that talks delayed, rather than
hastened, the end of the conflicts in Northern Ireland and the Basque country. Had
politicians allowed the army and police to go after the terrorists without
“their hands tied behind their backs” by worries about human rights, the
argument goes, they would have finished off the terrorists without any need for
talking. As someone intimately involved in both negotiations, I can
categorically declare this to be false. Although the IRA had been penetrated –
and was suffering from the advances made by security forces, which frustrated
an increasing number of their attacks – they were not about to be defeated.
(…) When every
other option has been eliminated, and governments are prepared to contemplate
talking to terrorists, they face a series of bad arguments against doing
so.
First,
that talking will give the terrorists legitimacy. It is true that armed groups crave
legitimacy, and will go to great lengths to secure it. But it is equally true
that such legitimacy is usually temporary, and disappears if they end the talks
and return to violence. The Farc in Colombia attained some respectability in the
Caguan negotiations in 1998-2002 but lost it as soon as they went back to war,
being dismissed as narco-terrorists who had rejected a reasonable offer from
the government.
Second,
it is argued that agreeing to a ceasefire so that talks can begin allows
insurgents to rest,
regroup, and re-arm. In fact, experience suggests that it is the armed groups
that suffer most from ceasefires, and find it harder to motivate their forces
to return to killing if the ceasefire ends.
Third,
critics suggest that talking can undermine moderate politicians by favouring
the extremists. The
Blair government was accused of having sidelined the moderate SDLP to talk to
Sinn Féin, but this was another false charge: in fact, we tried at the
beginning to build an agreement from the centre outward, but the SDLP made it
clear they would not move forward without Sinn Féin.
These
specious arguments only cause governments to leave opening up conversations
with the terrorists far too late. We
forget how such discussions were conducted on previous occasions, and try to
reinvent the wheel each time. Opening a channel with a covert group is
difficult and dangerous; building trust and turning the channel into a
negotiation takes much more time than people think.
Terrorists
are much better at learning the lessons of history, partly because leaders of armed groups tend
to stay in place much longer than democratically elected prime ministers and
presidents. Gerry Adams has seen eight British prime ministers come and go
while he has been the leader of Irish Republicans. The terrorists deliberately
study what has happened in the past. The Fenians looked at the Russian
nihilists, and the original IRA were fascinated by the Boers. Menachem Begin
studied both the campaigns of the IRA in 1919-21 and the Russian anarchists.
His own memoir was in turn found in an al-Qaida training camp in Afghanistan.
To say that
we need to learn the lessons from the past is not simply to suggest that we can
adopt a model from Northern Ireland – or anywhere else – that can be
plugged into any conflict and used as a template to solve it. Every conflict is different; its causes are
different and its solution will be different. But I have now studied most of the negotiations between armed
groups and governments in the last 30 years – including those that have
succeeded in Mozambique, South Africa, El Salvador, the Philippines and
Indonesia, as well as those that have failed in Sri Lanka, Colombia and the
Middle East – and there is clearly a
pattern to what works and what does not. Above all, what these experiences demonstrate is that there isn’t really an
alternative to talking to the terrorists if you want the conflict to end. (…)
It is
true that an autocratic regime can, by using unrestrained force and blacking
out all publicity, finish off a terrorist movement in Chechnya or anywhere else. But as we found
out after the Soviet Union collapsed, all this does is to put the
problems in the deep freeze; sooner or later they will reappear. Hafez al-Assad thought he had
resolved the problem of Sunni rebellion in 1982, when his forces killed tens of
thousands of civilians in the city of Hama. But as his son Bashar found out 30
years later, he had not really resolved the problem at all. (…)
In February
2008, after I had left government, I argued in the Guardian that we should also
talk to Hamas, to the Taliban and even to al-Qaida. My former colleagues in the
British government predictably rubbished me. They insisted that while it was
acceptable to talk to the IRA and the PLO it was out of the question with these
new terrorists.
But are the
so-called “fourth wave” terrorists (following on from the anarchists, the
nationalists and the Marxists) really so different that there is nothing to
be learned from the way we dealt with their predecessors? Or are the issues in
the end political – however gruesome the methods they use – and therefore
resolvable only by political means? It is true that the ambition of their
violence is on a greater scale. Rather than the handful of people the IRA or
ETA would kill in a car bombing or an assassination, they want to kill
thousands of people. But the 19th-century anarchists had the same ambitions –
and in any case, the number of people killed doesn’t make any difference to the
moral nature of terrorism. It is just as wrong to kill one innocent person
as it is to kill a thousand, and it can often be more shocking. It is true
that the new terrorists use suicide bombers to maximise the terror they
inflict, but so did the Russian nihilists – and the art of suicide bombing,
including the use of female suicide bombers, was perfected by the Tamil Tigers
in the 1980s.
It is
argued that their violence is based on religion, and so it is impossible to
negotiate with them
– in the words of one former Israeli cabinet member: “When you get God into
discussions, God never compromises.” But
there is no evidence that religious armed groups are harder to engage than
secular ones: peace has been made with Islamic armed groups, including the
Free Aceh Movement in Indonesia and the Moro Islamic Liberation
Front in the Philippines. It is also said that because the
aims of these groups are apocalyptic and their demands unnegotiable, it is
impossible to treat with them.
While it is
true that it is unlikely that any government is going to agree to the creation
of a global caliphate, the terrorist groups we encountered in the past also
put forward demands that would never be acceptable. No British government
was ever going to concede a united Ireland against the wishes of a majority of
the people in Northern Ireland. Once discussions were begun
with the Irish Republicans, we discovered that they were prepared to settle for
something else.
Government
officials may have criticised me six years ago, but in the intervening period
they seem to have overcome the sense that it is absolutely impossible to talk
to these groups. The Israeli and US governments have now both negotiated with
Hamas on the release of Gilad Shalit, the kidnapped Israeli Defence Force
corporal, and over the recent ceasefire in Gaza, albeit indirectly. In Afghanistan, after a long mating ritual, the US government finally negotiated with
the Taliban for the release of Sergeant Bowe Bergdahl a few months ago in
return for freeing five prisoners held in Guantánamo Bay. (…) So it turns out that we are
ready to talk to these fourth generation groups despite the assertion only a
few years ago that we could never deal with them.
(…) We need
to work out a longer term strategy for dealing with whatever threat they pose,
rather than opting once again for a kneejerk response to satisfy opinion polls.
That strategy will certainly include security measures – if the terrorists
feel they have the prospect of winning, they will just carry on fighting.
(…) We need to bear in mind that such negotiations do not usually succeed at
first; they have to go through many iterations, and an agreement is usually reached only when a
mutually hurting stalemate exists, in which both sides realise that they cannot
prevail militarily.
Nor should we expect that we are going to
defeat terrorism for good even if we succeed in dealing with al-Qaida and Isis; there will be new groups and
terrorism will always be with us. It is the ugly twin of democracy and has
grown up with it. If minorities cannot get their way by the ballot box they
will sometimes resort to extreme violence to attract attention and find
satisfaction for their demands.
Yet we
continue to approach terrorism as if it is something that can be solved or
cured. Some experts look for a solution in technology. Drones, jungle-penetrating radar
and electronic counter-measures can help combat terrorists for a while but the
terrorists soon work out a way round the counter-measures and technology helps
them develop more deadly means of attack. The use of mobile phones and social
media can make it easier to track terrorists but it also makes it easier for
them to organise without being detected. There is not going to be a miracle
cure for terrorism and we should stop hoping one will turn up. The solution
lies in the tools we already have in our hands – fighting and talking. Success depends on combining military force
with offering a political way out.
The one
thing I have learned, above all else, from the last 17 years is that there is no such thing as an insoluble
conflict with an armed group – however bloody, difficult or ancient. Even
the Middle
East
peace process, which has stuttered on for decades, will in the end result in a
lasting agreement.
The fact that it has failed so many times before does not mean that it will
always fail, and an eventual settlement will be built on the past failures and
the lessons learned from these failures, as was the peace in Northern Ireland.
It is
remarkable how quickly a conflict can shift from being regarded as “insoluble”
to one whose solution was “inevitable” as soon as an agreement is signed. Beforehand, and even up to a very
late stage in the process, conventional wisdom states that the conflict can
never be resolved; but before the ink is dry on the agreement, people are ready
to conclude that it was inevitable. They put it down to outside events like the
end of the cold war, to the effect of 9/11 or to changing economic
circumstances. But this conventional wisdom is wrong.
Just as no conflict is insoluble, nor is it
inevitable that it will be resolved at any particular moment in history. Believing that a solution is
inevitable is nearly as dangerous as believing a conflict cannot be solved.
If people sit around waiting for a conflict to be “ripe” for talks to start, or
for the forces of history to solve it for them, then it will never be resolved.
If the negotiations are handled badly, they will fail, which is why it is worth
trying to learn from the experience of others. Dealing effectively with a terrorist threat requires political
leadership, patience and a refusal to take no for an answer. What we
need are more political leaders who are capable of remembering what happened
last time – and prepared to take the necessary risks.”